Precious Jesus

"Afresh, precious, precious Jesus, I resign this body to You, for doing or suffering, for living or dying. Will You accept it? Will You use me for Your glory more than heretofore, that You may have some little return for all the benefits You have done to me? Oh, do grant this request; my heart longs for it, my spirit pleads for it; and "if You will, You can." You know the hot temptation of which I am the subject. Bring Your glory out of it, and keep me from the evil, and it shall be well." - Ruth Bryan

Sunday, June 10, 2018

More stupidity from the SBC

The nation's largest 'Protestant denomination' is calling for a rejection on gay therapy bans. Here is a quote from a recent news story, "A resolution submitted to the Southern Baptist Convention for its annual meeting in Dallas, Texas, has called on the nation's largest Protestant denomination to reject "homosexual identity politics" and state bans on conversion therapy.  Titled "On Ministry and Counseling to Lead People from Homosexuality to Heterosexuality," the resolution, among other things, asks the SBC to "offer loving assistance to people suffering from same-sex attraction, so that they may turn from homosexuality to heterosexuality" and to reject "as heresy any claims that God makes people homosexual." from
If you take the time to read through this resolution, many red flags will fly- here is another example, 'the Southern Baptist Convention respects and affirms the right for those formerly enslaved by the sin of homosexuality to live celibate lives devoted to God'. So, you can still have a desire for the same sex, just don't act upon it. Yet, Christ tells us in Matthew 5:28, "whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."  You will be held accountable for your lustful thoughts and desires as well, even if you never act on them. 
Here's another example, 'RESOLVED, the Southern Baptist Convention affirms that repentance of the sin of homosexuality, by the power of Christ, removes the stain of the sin of homosexuality on the person's life, and that the follower of Christ living in a new life is embraced in fellowship with the body of Christ, and is considered qualified for the works God has created and called him or her.' What is missing here? Christ frees us from the POWER of sin; I turn to A.W. Pink for deeper insight...
Present salvation from the power of sin consists in, first, delivering us from the love of it, which though begun at our regeneration is continued throughout out practical sanctification. Second, from its blinding delusiveness, so that it can no more deceive as it once did. Third, from our excusing it: “that which I do, I allow not” (Rom. 7:15). This is one of the surest marks of regeneration. In the fullest sense of the word the believer “allows” it not before he sins, for every real Christian when in his right mind desires to be wholly kept from sinning. He “allows” it not fully when doing it, for in the actual committing thereof there is an inward reserve—the new nature consents not. He “allows” it not afterwards, as Psalm 51 evidences so plainly of the case of David.

First, save them from the pleasure or love of sin by bestowing a nature which hates it: this is the great miracle of grace.
Second, save them from the penalty or punishment of sin, by remitting all its guilt: this is the grand marvel of grace.
Third, save them from the power or dominion of sin, by the workings of His Spirit: this reveals the wondrous might of grace.
Fourth, save them from the presence or inbeing of sin: this will demonstrate the glorious magnitude of grace. 

Pay close attention to the wording and allow me to point to the stupidity of the SBC, namely  this, "offer loving assistance to people suffering with 'same sex attraction'.  I've underlined what I consider to be the stupidity of this line of thinking by the SBC. 

Now, what does 'loving assistance' mean? I am guessing it may reference to 'conversion therapy'. Here is the definition of that phrase, 'the pseudoscientific practice of trying to change an individual's sexual orientation from homosexual or bisexual to heterosexual using psychological or spiritual interventions'.   So the 'goal' of this godless denomination is to change the sexual preference of unregenerate sinners, making homosexuals into heterosexuals. What is gained in this? Is the soul saved IF one is heterosexual? Of course not! There is nothing biblical about 'conversion therapy', for NO MAN can change another. Only GOD can change a heart....period. I am getting sick and tired of these unregenerate religious idiots pretending they can 'fix' things, from the likes of Al Mohler who unites with Mormons to fight for 'traditional marriage', to the SBC who wants to stamp out homosexuality and make everybody heterosexuals. Then all will be 'right' with the world won't it? Of course, the elect of God know better. 

I am in NO WAY defending the abomination of homosexuality, for it is an abhorrence to our thrice-holy God. 

Let's move on, 'people suffering from 'same sex attraction'. Where in the bible do we find the phrase 'same sex attraction'? Let's use God's terminology shall we? "And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet." Romans 1:27

Those who delve into this abomination are not 'suffering' from something they cannot help! They WILLFULLY CHOOSE to leave that which is natural, meaning 'inborn' in the original language, rejecting that for that which is 'unnatural' or against nature.  God has instilled in all of us the 'natural way' at birth, so homosexuals cannot argue that God made them the way they are.  The bible teaches otherwise.
One of the definitions of 'leaving' is 'abandon'. Now, if one willfully abandons something, how is it they are suffering? It isn't as though they are 'victim' of something outside of themselves or their own control is it? They know what they are doing, and they pursue this sin of homosexuality with ALL their might. 
The next part of the verse states 'burned in their lust'.  Here's the meaning, 'to inflame deeply, to set on fire, burn with lust.  Vincent's word studies states this about lust, which is from the Greek word  orexis -'Only here in the New Testament. It is a reaching out after something with the purpose of appropriating it.' To summarize, the homosexual has a deep, intense burning/rage  that causes them to lust, crave, desire, long for the same sex. This is not natural, this is not normal...this is NOT love. This is the result of being given over to a depraved mind by God to the sin you crave. 

Commentary from David Guzik points this out -Paul doesn’t even use the normal words for men and women here; he uses the words for male and female, using categories that describe sexuality outside of human terms, because the type of sexual sin he describes is outside of human dignity.
John Gill has a much shorter commentary, one that should instill fear in every homosexual, 'God punishes sin with sin'.

Also concerning Romans 1:27, Matthew Henry says this, "Man being in honour, and refusing to understand the God that made him, thus becomes worse than the beasts that perish, Psa_49:20. Thus one, by the divine permission, becomes the punishment of another; but it is (as it said here) through the lusts of their own hearts - there all the fault is to be laid. Those who dishonoured God were given up to dishonour themselves. A man cannot be delivered up to a greater slavery than to be given up to his own lusts."

Now I will address this, 'so that they may turn from homosexuality to heterosexuality'. Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil. Jeremiah 13:23 Is conversion therapy a 'magic formula' that causes one to stop being immoral? Is being morally upright all that is needed to enter God's kingdom?  Many morally upright people  have died and are  now in hell. 

I want to share commentary from David Guzik on Romans 1 - "Paul wrote to a culture where homosexuality was accepted as a part of life for both men and women. For some 200 years, men who openly practiced homosexuality, often with young boys, ruled the Roman Empire.

At times, the Roman Empire specifically taxed approved homosexual prostitution and gave boy prostitutes a legal holiday. Legal marriage between same gender couples was recognized, and even some of the emperors married other men. At the very time Paul was writing, Nero was emperor. He took a boy named Sporus and had him castrated, then married him (with a full ceremony), brought him to the palace with a great procession, and made the boy his "wife." Later, Nero lived with another man, and Nero was the "wife."
 Homosexual practice truly is an abomination in our present culture. Statistics tell us that on average 43% of homosexuals say that they have had 500 or more sexual partners in their lifetime, and only 1% of homosexuals say they have had four or less sexual partners in their lifetime.
 According the Unites States Department of Health and Human Services, 77% of homosexuals say they have met sexual partners in a city park; 62% in a homosexual bar, 61% in a theater, 31% in a public restroom. Only 28% of homosexuals said that they had known their partners for at least a week before participating in homosexual sex.
 Homosexuals often seem to specialize in anonymous sex with no emotional commitment. At one time, London AIDS clinics defined a woman as promiscuous if she had more than six partners in her lifetime. They gave up trying to apply a workable definition to male homosexuals when it became clear that they saw almost no homosexual men who had less than six sexual partners a year."
This is NOT a new 'sin', this abomination has always been a part of this sin cursed world and will continue to be until our Lord comes. Sadly, this abomination no longer carries the shock factor it once did, society has 'accepted' it to a certain degree. But that isn't enough for the militant homosexual agenda. We must stand firm on God's truth when it comes to all sin, and we must follow His word in dealing with sinners. We should never resort to man made methods of trying to 'cure' sinners - the homosexual needs to hear of the thrice holy God that judges righteously, that shows mercy to vile sinners and saves such through Christ and by His grace. 

I close with this from Spurgeon, there was a time when Romans 1 was considered a horrifying thing.....
This first chapter of the Epistle to the Romans is a dreadful portion of the Word of God. I should hardly like to read it all through aloud; it is not intended to be so used. Read it at home, and be startled at the awful vices of the Gentile world.” (Spurgeon)


Darrel said...

PCA SBC what's the difference? Maybe when the exodus from their ranks has reached a critical level they will seek to merge. They're a good fit now, both preach a false gospel and both love their sins------a marriage made in hell!!

I had read of the 'resolution' last week, but did not read it. Thanks for picking it apart. Evil marches on in a new disguise. More blind leading the blind. If this passes, so what? It is toothless and will not glorify God in any manner but only bolster the self-righteous in their quest to be relevant. If it doesn't pass then the slide into further darkness will get a huge boost and it's "Katy, bar the door."

I have no sympathy for anything SBC, no respect for those who remain lodged there. I liken those of the SBC who fancy themselves to "be saved" like a catholic who also makes the claim and chooses to remain in the RC goat herders association as a "witness for Christ" while making sacrifices to the devil every day.

It will be interesting to see how fast things move when denominational mergers begin. Even so, Come Lord Jesus!!!

Darrel said...

I forgot,
I cannot agree with Spurgeon at all. If there is any portion of Scripture that should be spoken in public, this is it, though it may soon mean a visit to the local jail.

lyn said...

I agree Darrel - the merge can't be far off can it? As for Spurgeon, I don't think he meant he would not preach on Romans 1, I take it to mean it was so horrifying, it should cause great fear in all. That's just my opinion. I have seen some commentary by CHS on Romans 1 all the way through verse 25, but I haven't seen anything from him on verses after that. I do agree, it cannot be looked over - it should cause great fear and concern, but never avoided.

lyn said...

It was the 'shock value' I was trying to bring out by using the Spurgeon quote, I see now it may not have been such a good idea. Thanks for your views brother.

Darrel said...

"Shock value" does work, if it gets people to thinking, which I see as your intent. Just hope people will actually think instead of ingesting the "party line" that most are so good at. Too many have their head in the sand, unwilling to consider the possibility that they are (dead) wrong about this issue. They are happy and content in their blindness.

lyn said...

And they love to have it that way. When God turns you over to your erroneous theology and your sins, that is a dreadful thing. Many are under His judgment of abandonment, and they don't see it. Their errors keep them from the God of the Bible, so be it. Praise the Lord for revealing truth to those who seek it as silver, as precious jewels.

Sheryl said...

The abominable sin of homosexuality that America embraces with 'love' and 'equality' now permeates our society, along with its counterpart of transgenders, 'choosing' one's sexual identity, indoctrinating and confusing children so the next generation will be completely deranged - as is their plan. And Al Mohler and the like are assisting in the transformation and acceptance, yellow-bellied to say, "the Bible says..." or mention the names of Sodom and Gomorrah that are for an example. Instead, they are as fools to invent man-made solutions so homosexuals can be 'loved' into morality, so that they can be welcomed into fellowship and participate in 'church' leadership roles and activities. Futile work and idiotic reasoning on the part of compromising men, who find it egregious to be separated from the world. Their efforts are pointless, for God will not accept it.

It amazes me how far God is allowing mankind and false teachers to sink, maligning His name and desecrating His doctrines. It only causes us to cry all the more, "Come Lord Jesus" and rule and reign in righteousness.

lyn said...

This is sinful man thinking he can play God by determining what sex one wants to be, or by stating one can be with the same sex because after all, they 'suffer' from 'same sex attraction'. What poppycock!! They play victim and the visible 'church' eats it up. Using emotions is a great way to lessen sin and increase its scope.

These vile, disgusting sins are exactly what the reprobate desires, they LOVE to indulge in their sins. Yet, fools like Mohler and Tim Keller embrace them as 'gay Christians' - those who make excuses for and coddle sinners are guilty of condoning their vile sins.
The Lord God will NOT be mocked.