Precious Jesus

"Afresh, precious, precious Jesus, I resign this body to You, for doing or suffering, for living or dying. Will You accept it? Will You use me for Your glory more than heretofore, that You may have some little return for all the benefits You have done to me? Oh, do grant this request; my heart longs for it, my spirit pleads for it; and "if You will, You can." You know the hot temptation of which I am the subject. Bring Your glory out of it, and keep me from the evil, and it shall be well." - Ruth Bryan

Thursday, January 9, 2014

Suffering persecution -** updated**

'Yea, and all that would live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.' 2 Timothy 3:12

I have read of  evangelists who have gotten arrested, or detained for questioning, because of their street preaching. According to the news stories, the laws were clear and yet, some evangelists think they can break the laws and mention certain sexual sins. Some even refuse to move on, again, purposely breaking the law. When they get arrested or detained, they call it 'persecution'; but is it? The latest Tony Miano fiasco is a prime example of setting yourself up to be arrested so you can claim 'persecution'. I must say, I have to agree with an excellent blog post I read here.  The sad fact is that anytime someone questions or exposes Tony Miano's abusive and arrogant demeanor, they come under attack by his 'fans'. I experienced that firsthand.
It is worth looking at the charges against Tony Miano...

(001) On 8th January 2014 at Murraygate, Dundee you ANTHONY MIANO did behave in a threatening or abusive manner which was likely to cause a reasonable person to suffer fear or alarm in that you did repeatedly shout and utter homophobic remarks;
CONTRARY to Section 38(1) of the Criminal Justice and Licensing (Scotland) Act 2010 and it will be proved in terms of Section 2 of the Offences (Aggravation by Prejudice) (Scotland) Act 2009 that the aforesaid offence was aggravated by prejudice relating to sexual orientation.
I did underline the shouting and uttering homophobic remarks because this is a deliberate act on Miano's part; this is NOT how we are called to speak to the unregenerate, nor should this be labeled as persecution!

I have watched Miano's videos on street preaching, I have seen how he badgers the unregenerate, how he gets them worked up into fits of rage, and in one particular event,  he did not even bother to give the Gospel. After viewing these videos, which no longer exist, I pray for true repentance to be wrought in Mr. Miano.   His actions show his heart is filled with pride and arrogance. His constant self- promotion clearly states who he seeks to exalt. As for the post penned by Joel Taylor - finally, somebody is calling Miano out for his prideful arrogant way of 'street preaching' as well as his false claim of 'persecution!!! When somebody knowingly goes against the law, wording their message in a way that causes them to be arrested, is that true persecution? Do we have to pinpoint certain sins? Should we boast and claim persecution? I found this excellent quote at a true street preacher's blog, Dale McAlpine

~ Never talk of what you have done, but go on to something else. An officer rode up to his general, and said, “Sir, we have taken two guns from the enemy.” “It is well,” said the general, “take two more.”
~ The moment we glorify ourselves, since there is room for one glory only in the universe, we set ourselves up as rivals to the Most High.
~ So much remains to be accomplished that we have no time to consider what has been done.
~C.H Spurgeon

Perhaps we need to define 'persecution' as the Bible intends for it to be defined. The Greek word is diogmas, which comes from diōkō; this is defined by Thayer's  as '1) to make to run or flee, put to flight, drive away
2) to run swiftly in order to catch a person or thing, to run after
2a) to press on: figuratively of one who in a race runs swiftly to reach the goal
2b) to pursue (in a hostile manner)
Strong's defines it as 'A prolonged (and causative) form of a primary verb δίω diō (to flee; compare the base of G1169 and G1249); to pursue (literally or figuratively); by implication to persecute: - ensue, follow (after), given to, (suffer) persecute (-ion), press toward.'

Looking at the verse at the top of this post, I now turn to Matthew Henry...

"All that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution: not always alike; at that time those who professed the faith of Christ were more exposed to persecution than at other times; but at all times, more or less, those who will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. They must expect to be despised, and that their religion will stand in the way of their preferment; those who will live godly must expect it, especially those who will live godly in Christ Jesus, that is, according to the strict rules of the Christian religion, those who will wear the livery and bear the name of the crucified Redeemer. All who will show their religion in their conversation, who will not only be godly, but live godly, let them expect persecution, especially when they are resolute in it. Observe, (1.) The apostle's life was very exemplary for three things: for his doctrine, which was according to the will of God; for his life, which was agreeable to his doctrine; and for his persecutions and sufferings. (2.) Though his life was a life of great usefulness, yet it was a life of great sufferings; and none, I believe, came nearer to their great Master for eminent services and great sufferings than Paul: he suffered almost in every place; the Holy Ghost witnessed that bonds and afflictions did abide him, Act_20:23. Here he mentions his persecutions and afflictions at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra, besides what he suffered elsewhere. (3.) The apostle mentions the Lord's delivering him out of them all, for Timothy's and our encouragement under sufferings. (4.) We have the practice and treatment of true Christians: they live godly in Jesus Christ - this is their practice; and they shall suffer persecution - this is the usage they must expect in this world."

Now we turn to Matthew 5:11, " Blessed are ye when men shall reproach you, and persecute you, and say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake."
Here is A. W. Pink's commentary on this text...

 "Our Lord mentions, in verse 11, three sorts of suffering that His disciples should expect to endure in the line of duty. The first is reviling, that is, verbal abuse or vituperation. The second is persecution. This word is a proper rendering of a Greek word meaning "to pursue, which means, in this case, "to harass, trouble, or molest" (either physically or verbally). It may include the sort of handling or hunting down to which Saul of Tarsus subjected the Church before he was apprehended by Christ (Acts 8, 9). Christ sets forth the third type of suffering as follows: "Blessed are ye, when men. . . shall say all manner of evil against you falsely. . . ." Thus He describes the defamation of character to which His saints must he subjected. This last is doubly painful to sensitive temperaments, finding its realization in the countless calumnies that the Devil is never weary of inventing in order to intensify the sufferings of the children of God. The words "persecuted for righteousness’ sake" and "for My sake" caution us to see to it that we are opposed and hated solely because we are the followers of the Lord Jesus, and not on account of our own misconduct or injudicious behavior (see 1 Pet. 2:19-24).
Persecution has ever been the lot of God’s people. Cain slew Abel. "And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother’s righteous" (1 John 3:12). Joseph was persecuted by his brethren, and down in Egypt he was cast into prison for righteousness’ sake (Gen. 37, 39). Moses was reviled again and again (see Ex. 5:21; 14:11; 16:2; 17:2; etc.). Samuel was rejected (1 Sam. 8:5). Elijah was despised (1 Kings 18:17) and persecuted (1 Kings 19:2). Micaiah was hated (I Kings 22:8). Nehemiah was oppressed and defamed (Neh. 4). The Savior Himself, the faithful Witness of God, was put to death by the people to whom He ministered. Stephen was stoned, Peter and John cast into prison, James beheaded, while the entire course of the Apostle Paul’s Christian life and ministry was one long series of bitter and relentless persecutions." A. W. Pink

We must be careful to heed the words of the Apostle Peter, " For what credit is there if, when you sin and are harshly treated, you endure it with patience? But if when you do what is right and suffer for it you patiently endure it, this finds favor with God. " 1 Peter 2:20
We aren't called to go looking for persecution, it will come to all who desire to live godly. 


Darrel said...

There can be no justifiable pity for Miano here. He continues to preach his gospel of hate, agitation, confrontation, and self-seeking ambitions. It is supposed that he thinks more money will come his way for yet another instance of "persecution" that was staged to that end. This man is an enemy of the cross of Christ, an evil worker, whose god is his own belly and should not be regarded as a "brother in Christ" for he speaks against the Savior at every opportunity.

Preaching the Gospel and being persecuted for doing so is one thing. But I have yet to find an example of real Gospel preaching coming from this man's mouth. For those who would defend him know that you are complicit with the evil he projects, and are just as much an enemy of the cross of Jesus Christ as is Miano. Take care that you do not insult the Spirit of Grace by saying this man is doing God's work, for he is not.

lyn said...

You are so right. I read a tweet of his before he left on this trip where he stated there was always a good chance for the possibility of being arrested; then I read the charge and I knew he purposely sought to be arrested. He is a disgrace to Christ. Joel Taylor's post is most excellent, he also posted this if you are interested -

Miano's ego will be his own undoing. He does NOT care about glorifying Christ, nor does he care about the lost; his videos which have since been removed prove that! He seeks to exalt himself, he floods the internet with videos that promote himself! And yet, men like Phil Johnson support him, men like James White support him! Now you see why most of what calls itself Christian in this country sickens me! All you have to do is read Miano's tweets, if you can stomach the self promotion, and you will see his continual ungodly mannerisms.

If you DARE question him, he has his own 'posse' who launch an attack of name-calling against you...real Christian!!

I know he will fizzle out, for he is a charlatan just like the WOF hucksters, the only difference is Miano claims to be 'Reformed' in his beliefs. Only in America can you repeat some sound doctrinal belief, even if your actions are fleshly, it does not matter; you are considered a true believer! That certainly doesn't say much for the discernment of men like Steve Lawson, who endorsed Miano's book, which was reviewed here -

Diane said...

"If you DARE question him, he has his own 'posse' who launch an attack of name-calling against you...real Christian!!"

Shoot...he will do it himself, too. The below tweet by Miano is in reference to Joel Taylor, whose article you linked:

"Tony Miano
The author of the blog shouldn't b taken seriously.He may not b saved. He seems 2 hate just bout everyone" Miano Twitter Jan 10

If this wasn't so sad it would be funny. The author of the blog shouldn't be taken seriously? Thus sayeth Miano....because, well, if anyone says a negative or critical thing, then that one just shouldn't be taken seriously. okaaaaay

Next he pulls out the salvation card. Look out-he may not be saved and the good Lord knows we better not be listening to anyone who many not be saved lol (Miano-how do I know YOU are saved? I better not listen to you).

Lastly, he decides that Joel Taylor "seems 2 hate just bout everyone". Not only is that a predictable attack the messenger statement, but it's such an immature argument. He is trying to invalidate everything Taylor wrote in his post by informing us that the guy "seems" to hate almost everyone, therefore we can disregard him.

Seems to hate? What does that mean? How do you "seem" to hate someone? You either do or don't. Miano chose the word "seems" so he wouldn't get in too much trouble. lol Miano is a coward, imo...doesn't SEEM to be a coward, IS a coward and acts like one, imo. I would like to see Miano volunteer to go on one of his evangelistic tours to Syria, North Korea or Somalia- where he can witness true persecution. Why do I think that will never happen?

I truly wonder about Miano's emotional maturity. Well, not really. He shows it all the time.

People will show you who they just need to believe them. Take them at their word.

Darrel said...

I wish you were wrong, Lyn, but you are not. The last several days have been somewhat of a wake-up call for me in that my latent suspicions of those of the "reformed" persuasion have been shown to be worse than I imagined. With warnings of such men (and women) found throughout the NT it is easier to believe their lies than hold their feet to the fire. It's like ice cream laced with ricin, you know the ricin is there, but you eat the ice cream anyway because it tastes so good. The American church (not to be confused with the Church of Jesus Christ) loves to have it so and will defend their golden boy (and girl) "preachers" to the death. It pretty much boils down to notoriety, perception, and mutual back scratching as to who the most adored will be, with those in righteous opposition being the nay-saying bad guys.

From rising stars-Miano-and well established "ministries" such as Mac Arthur, Lawson, Mohler (thanks for signing the Manhattan Declaration, Al) and the catholic adoring RC Sproul the real church has been flooded with the lies of these men for too long. Dig deep enough into the teachings of these and others and there is the common thread of ecumenicalism running free and unopposed. That's where the term "common ground" started. All that is needed is for one to claim to "love God" and you are in, you are a good guy and anything you say must be the truth because "you love God", no matter that the Scriptures are massaged into a lie. You are now given a pass no matter how big the lie is---I speak specifically of John Mac Arthur's statement that the blood of Christ has no saving power and is but a euphemism for His death, this he says despite at least a dozen verses that speak the exact opposite of this lie, verses he has read and full-well knows expose his lie. And yet for all of this, his lie goes unopposed by all of his peers.

My prayer for these men is simple: 'Lord, please expose the evil and glorify Your Name'. Eph. 5:11. And 'Lord, please stop their mouth.' Titus 1:10&11. I find no authorization or mandate to ask the Lord to "save them" since that was determined before the world began. If I am wrong, please show me.

My prayer for the real Church, the Body and Bride of Christ is the whole of Eph. 3:14-21.

lyn said...

excellent comment Diane; it is very telling how he deals with folks who question his doings. His actions and words say it all don't they? I think it is so sad that all you have to do to be accepted into Evangelical Christianity is puppet some correct theology, it doesn't matter if your actions do NOT line up with your words. Miano fits the words of Christ found in Isaiah 29:13, ": "Because this people draw near with their mouth and honor me with their lips, while their hearts are far from me, and their fear of me is a commandment taught by men"

lyn said...


I have prayed that SAME prayer!! I am not shocked that Paul Washer is now embracing Miano, after all, they have the same 'biblical patriarchal-type' views on women and daughters. I need to take some time and remove every post on this blog that includes Washer, JMac, Sproul, Lawson, and every other modern day mammon lover.

lyn said...

As for MacArthur, NO ONE challenges him, for he is the 'golden boy' of American Christianity! He has such a HUGE following; it is shameful that so many follow mortal men and NOT Jehovah God...America is guilty in the highest form of idolatry. I refuse to even let any of these mens' teaching come near to my ear, I DARE not offend my precious, holy God.

Diane said...

@ Darrel

"Dig deep enough into the teachings of these and others and there is the common thread of ecumenicalism running free and unopposed."

That is what I have found too. Research John MacArthur's father, if you haven't already.

lyn said...

There is another post by Joel Taylor that you may find telling -

I also found this article pretty interesting -

From that article a preacher in Scotland clarifies, "We have many problems but here is the rub. We have the freedom to do so. We are not banned from preaching the Word of God, nor are we restricted (for now) in doing so. So whatever else the arrest of Tony Miano means, it is dishonest and wrong for Christians to say this means that the Gospel cannot be preached in Scotland today."

It is obvious Miano purposely worded his speech to offend, THAT is what got him arrested, and rightly so.