Precious Jesus

"Afresh, precious, precious Jesus, I resign this body to You, for doing or suffering, for living or dying. Will You accept it? Will You use me for Your glory more than heretofore, that You may have some little return for all the benefits You have done to me? Oh, do grant this request; my heart longs for it, my spirit pleads for it; and "if You will, You can." You know the hot temptation of which I am the subject. Bring Your glory out of it, and keep me from the evil, and it shall be well." - Ruth Bryan

Tuesday, April 10, 2012

The God who punishes His own

We live in a time when God is all love, seldom do we hear of His anger and hatred of sin; even when it concerns His people. This is a timely piece of warning from Gracegems for all, especially God's own...

The sins of God's people!

Thomas Vincent, "God's Terrible Voice in the City" 1667. Thomas Vincent, himself a witness of the 'Great Fire of London' in 1666, writes to explain why this severe divine judgment fell upon the godly, as well as on the wicked.)

"The Lord disciplines those He loves, and He punishes everyone He accepts as a son." Hebrews 12:6

If these judgments have fallen upon God's people--we must know that they have their sins, which have deserved them. Possibly some have begun to comply with the wicked in their wicked ways. It may be, that they had . . .
  grown more loose in their walking,
  and formal in the service of God,
  and their hearts more set on the world.

The sins of God's people have more heinous aggravations than the sins of the wicked, being committed against . . .
  clearer light,
  dearer love,
  sweeter mercies, and
  stronger obligations;
and therefore provoke God the more to wrath. Hence He threatens His own people, especially, to punish them when they transgress, "You only have I known of all the families of the earth--and therefore I will punish you for your iniquities." Amos 3:2

Besides, God's people have need of awakening judgments . . .
  to arouse them,
  to humble them for sin, and
  to loosen and wean them from the world!
It is in love and faithfulness, that God inflicts such judgments upon them.

"Before I was afflicted I went astray--but now I obey Your Word." Psalm 119:67

"It was good for me to be afflicted--so that I might learn Your decrees." Psalm 119:71

"I know, O Lord, that Your laws are righteous, and in faithfulness You have afflicted me." Psalm 119:75


Diane said...

This was very timely sister as I have been studying sin the last few days. Thanks so much!

lyn said...

I too have been studying and proclaiming God's truth concerning sin, specifically the sin of homosexuality with those who insist it isn't sin. It's amazing how depraved and wicked our society is, not that I am above anyone, by God's grace, I am what I am.

I was reading from 2 Timothy chapter 3 and the perilous/difficult times the Apostle Paul speaks of...they are here primarily because of wolves and false teachers who preach lies and men love it. Men no longer put up with sound doctrine, they love having their ears tickled, they are lovers of self, money, pleasure and lust and haters of men. Neighbors no longer wave or even speak to one another. Instead, they build up invisible walls {like posting security alarm warning signs} around their property to protect their 'stuff' from 'undesirables'. No one helps anybody anymore; they point fingers and accuse others of the very same thing they do. For instance, I have neighbors that are on illegal drugs and do not work, other neighbors who do work make judgmental accusations against those who don't. I have observed the 'good neighbor' who judges the drug addicted neighbor constantly has a beer in his hand. The wealthy neighbor who turns up her nose at the poor neighbor forgets she once had nothing, and what she now has God will hold her accountable for. I got caught up in complaining about the drug addicted neighbors and their roaming the neighborhood all hours of the night, and God brought me under conviction. OUCH!!

"And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold." Matthew 24:12

Linda said...

Yes, God will judge sin and he does discipline and rebuke those he loves. the only thing I have a disagreement with in the article is that for His children we are not under God's wrath anymore. all God's wrath for us was poured on Jesus at the cross.

It certainly doesn't mean God would not take out one of his children (death) because he will if they continue IN sin as we know scripture does teach this-1 John 5:16.

Personally I believe that God doesn't show partiality even with his children. When it comes to earthquakes, floods, fires etc. Christians have to go through this sin fallen world and suffer the same. God does not protect his children all of a sudden from cancer, or being stabbed to death simply because they are saved. HE May but that's not necessarily true.

When it comes to sin, for the Christian and I've been there God will take you to the woodshed and he will NOT let you live like the world--.

So when it comes to the providence of God we simply don't know if he took people who were saved because of sin or not. I personally believe it was just God allowing this for his reasons.

I Knew about a godly couple who went to our Church and the were in their 70's I believe. One day they were in the car crossing a road and an 18 wheeler hit and killed them instantly. Was it because of some sin? I don't personally think so. But well God knows....

You are right though we should NEVER take God's love,grace and mercy for granted. There ARE consequences and Proverbs speaks well of what happens if you do. We DO reap what we sew. However, Jesus IS final authority in the Christian's life. and I'm always reminded of the verse that says that Jesus is the Author and Finisher of our faith". And he really DOES "work all things together for the good of those that love him"--even our failures and our sins-(NOT that he condones our sins)--BUT that he is able to take our lives through us repenting and still use us for his glory.

Great article and it is very timely Lyn. We need to FEAR the LORD and shun evil-Pr.14:16.

One of the greatest sins among God's people is not acknowledging HIM in all or ways and also not giving HIM all the glory and honor.

lyn said...

Linda, I agree, we are not under wrath in the eternal sense; however, we still face wrath if we persist in sin. For instance, if a believer continues to smoke cigarettes, they will face the consequences...a possible premature physical death due to lung cancer. The punishment for sins has been atoned for by Christ, however, the consequences still persist for those who continue long in sin. God will pour out judgment on sinners and saints if they do not 'come out from among them'. Again, for the believer, this is a physical death, not spiritual. Does that make sense?

Anonymous said...

A truth that we have forgotten, or neglected, or swept under the rug, or outright ignored. Inspite of our fallen nature wanting to hid from God on this matter, we most definately will be held responsible for all our actions, words and thoughts. Thank God for the cleansing blood of the Lord Jesus. Thank God it still breaks my heart to know that I still find ways to sin against Him. Even so, come Lord Jesus.


lyn said...

That is true Darrel, we tend to put too much emphasis on grace which leads to taking it in vain. We must always ponder the holiness of God and His hatred of sin as a deterrent to avoid sin. Unfortunately, we all fall short and must proclaim as Paul did, 'oh wretched man that I am!!'

Linda said...

It makes sense what you have said lyn..

I'm just hung up on the word wrath. Wrath is God's anger and hate and repugnant utter- how would you say it, detestable despicable disgust against His holy character poured out because of his hate. So for the child of God the wrath of God's pure indignation for our sins was fully satisfied in Christ boring our sins.

So maybe we are saying essentially the same thing. I just don't see God hating his children because of their sins or continuing in their sins in the same sense as wrath implies verses when God as our heavenly father disciplines us in love. the two are diametrically opposed. God loves us and yet there are consequences if we continue to smoke as you said that we can get lung cancer and die. But God never hates us if sin takes its course and we die. It's a consequence of sin and the person just never knew how much they were truly loved by God to quit smoking and their infinite worth and value.And they never knew the TRUTH that we are FREE!

Anyways sorry if it seems I'm nit picking. I'm just passionate and a bit sensitive in this area since I have gone astray in the past and God's love in my life has taught me that he always loved me-never hated me and I brought it upon myself the pain, and refusal to know the TRUTH. I know I grieved the heart of God but it never changed him to pour wrath on me. He lovingly disciplined me back.

How a person can continue in sin as a Christian simply goes to show that God is very loving. I have to be very careful about judging people who may indeed be born again even though they continue in a sin. that's a very astonishing thought...

BTW I hope and pray you've been doing well. Didn't see you on for a time and was concerned. Praying for you Lyn~

Love you sis in Christ~

lyn said...

I am fine, thank you for your concern. I also appreciate very much your prayers...keep 'em coming!

Love you too dear sister

Christina said...

Good words, dear Lyn. If we do not understand or have an appreciate for the bad news -- that is the wrath of God that is against us because of our sin, we will never come to fully know the good news -- that Christ Jesus came into the world to save His people from their sins. In seeking to downplay or water down the Gospel we end up cutting people off from the only thing that will save them. Thanks for the post and for your love and fear of God! Much love!

lyn said...

There is so much suppression of truth concerning sin in our day, especially among professing Christians. As Spurgeon so righty said, "God never clothes men until He has first stripped them,nor does He quicken them by the gospel till first they are slain by the law."-Spurgeon