Sunday, February 19, 2012

Is Whitney Houston in heaven?

*this post is not passing judgment on Whitney Houston, God is her judge. This post will examine her life and compare her life to Scripture*



Over 100,000 people die everyday, most without Christ.  More often than not, those left behind insist their departed loved one is now in heaven, regardless of how they lived their lives while on earth. A most recent example is the death of singing 'icon' Whitney Houston.  So many are insisting this woman is now in heaven, regardless of her bondage to drugs for years and her love of the limelight. In Ms. Houston's case, this assurance is solidified because she grew up in a church, sang in the choir, and often mentioned Jesus. Her funeral was filled with praises for her earthly accomplishments, her inspiration on other female singers that either are trying to make it big or have made it, and her acting accomplishments. There is no doubt this woman was gifted by God with a voice like no other, but, what did she do with the gift God gave her? Did she use it solely to glorify God? It would seem she did not.

When the world praises someone, it is because that person belonged to the world {John 15:19a}. Yet, we find the Apostle John warning us not to love the world, or the things of the world {1st John 2:15}. Christ Himself warns us in Luke 14:33 we must forsake all we have to be His disciple; that does not mean we give up everything we own, it means Christ must be first and we must be willing to leave all behind, if called to do so, for His sake. The Lord Jesus also warns the world will hate His followers {John 15:19}, the world would be glad to rid the earth of all who truly belong to Him; they certainly would not praise or admire a true slave of Christ. Those who God saves have been called out of the world, they no longer live to please the desires of the flesh; their lives are marked by living in a way that is contrary to those dead in sin. Seeking wealth, recognition and material possessions are not characteristic of a follower of Jesus Christ.

Whitney Houston claimed to have a desire to sing, but if that is all she wanted, why didn't she walk away from the demands of the entertainment industry and the fans who idolized her? Why charge for people to see you perform if you simply wanted to share your gift with them? Only God knows her true motives. To her credit, in a People article dated May 19, 1986, Whitney said this, ""I'm not wild about people looking at me as a role model," Whitney says. "What I do have is a talent I got from God. I'm me. That's all."

It is no secret this woman battled addiction, she died as a result of chronic cocaine use, which led to her  alleged accidental drowning. I have heard it said addiction is a disease. This is man's way of dealing with and labeling what the Bible calls 'sin'. Man says 'go to rehab', the Bible says 'repent'. Whitney went to rehab and came out still in bondage to drugs. All sin is a bondage, all who sin are enslaved to it {John 8:34}. This is why addicts cannot go through a man-made program and be set free; more often than not, they trade one addiction for another {some actually are freed by God, but they never give Him the credit}. When God regenerates a dead sinner, it is His power that frees them from sin's bondage. If Whitney were truly born again {John 3:3}, she would not have continued abusing drugs and alcohol, for the Lord Jesus Christ who lives within every believer would have empowered her over sin {John 8:36}. Drunkenness is a sin, the Bible warns a drunkard will not enter into the kingdom of heaven {1st Corinthians 6:9-10}. What about drug addiction, whether legal or illegal?
"But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."- Revelation 21:8. I have hi-lighted sorcerers because that is where we find out what happens to addicts who willfully continue in their addiction. Sorcerer is from the Greek word pharmakeus {which is where we get our word 'pharmacy'} and means 'a drug, that is, spell giving potion; a druggist (“pharmacist”) or poisoner, that is, (by extension) a magician: - sorcerer'. Those God re-births do not continue in their sins, they do not abuse drugs and alcohol because Christ has set them free from this bondage. Their desire now is to serve Him and bring Him glory. Ms. Houston was still in bondage to her addiction, sadly her claim to love Jesus was not heartfelt, "if you love me you will keep my commandments" {John 14:15}.

What about the desire for fame, wealth, recognition and all that goes with that? What does the Bible say about this and what are we to be content with? "But godliness actually is a means of great gain when accompanied by contentment" - 1Timothy 6:6. "if we have food and covering, with these we shall be content" - 1 Timothy 6:8 Living a godly life and being content with what God provides, food and covering, are all we need. What happens when our sinful hearts say that isn't enough and we desire glamor, glitter, the praise of men, the finest this life has to offer? "But those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a snare and many foolish and harmful desires which plunge men into ruin and destruction." - 1 timothy 6:9 This verse sums it all up, when we desire the pleasures of this world, we plunge ourselves into ruin and destruction; isn't that the end result of fame and fortune and doesn't it lead to looking for a way of escape from the entertainment industry and the demands of the world through alcohol and drugs? It is a destructive and deadly pattern we have seen over and over again with devastating and lasting results. This is from Thomas Watson, "The bee may suck a little honey from the leaf, but put it in a barrel of honey and it dies. Christians must stave of the world so that it does not get into their heart (Psalm 62:10). Water is useful to the ship and helps it to sail better to the haven, but let the water get into the ship, if it is not pumped out, it drowns the ship. So riches are useful and convenient for our passage. We sail more comfortably with them through the troubles of this world; but if the water gets into the ship, if love of riches gets into the heart, then we are drowned by them (1 Timothy 6:9). - from 'the Puritan Pulpit'

God does not delight in the death of the wicked ""For I have no pleasure in the death of anyone who dies," declares the Lord GOD. "Therefore, repent and live." - Ezekiel 18:32 There must be a forsaking of sin if one claims to be a follower of Jesus Christ - ""The Lord knows those who are His," and, "Everyone who names the name of the Lord is to abstain from wickedness." - 2nd Timothy 2:19. If you carefully examine Whitney's life, you see a habitual pattern of sin and rebellion.

Those who habitually sin, committing the sames sins day in and day out prove they do not know Christ and that He has not regenerated them. They simply give lip service, "Then the Lord said, "Because this people draw near with their words And honor Me with their lip service, But they remove their hearts far from Me" - Isaiah 29:13. You can claim Jesus loves you, but if you are living in habitual sin, your claim is merely empty words. The love of sin is in your heart, there is no evidence of a renewing of the mind {Romans 12:2}.

What about the Bible verses Whitney Houston quoted or her insistence that she is a child of God? Even Satan quotes Scripture, that does not mean Satan is a follower of Christ, nor does it mean anyone who can quote Scripture is a follower of Jesus Christ. Examine the fruit of the life of someone who claims to be in Christ and, if you have the gift of discernment, you will be able to tell if what they claim is true. This does not mean you condemn them to hell, their sins will condemn them to hell, according to the Scriptures.
This video gives us insight into her 'spiritual journey', which is not biblical at all.

Getting back to the title of this post, is Whitney Houston in heaven? If you examine her life and compare it to God's word, it would appear she is not. We do not know what happened those final moments of her life, only God knows. We do know that she was under the influence of cocaine, so she was not in her right mind. It would seem she died as she lived, without Christ. Yes, it is possible He could have saved her before her life ended. In reality, her life was riddled with sin; addiction, materialism, idolatry, immoral behavior, the desire for riches and fame...none of which are characteristic of the new birth. Whitney Houston used her voice for her own selfish desires and ended up self-destructing as a result. This is a tragedy, it is also a lesson for those who have ears to hear. Her reward was all she accomplished in this life "Child, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things" - Luke 16:25: commentary from Barnes on this verse zeroes in on the word 'remember' -"This is a cutting word in this place. One of the chief torments of hell will be the “remembrance” of what was enjoyed and of what was done in this world. Nor will it be any mitigation of the suffering to spend an “eternity” where there will be nothing else to do, day or night, but to “remember” what “was” done, and what “might have been,” if the life had been right." Let me add the unending torment and agony the Christ rejecting sinner will endure because of unbelief and willful disobedience. Lazarus the beggar received evil things in this life and now is comforted forever, while the rich man is in torment, again, we turn to Barnes commentary on the phrase 'but now'..."But the comforts of the rich man are now gone forever, and the joys of Lazarus have just commenced. “One” is to be comforted, and “the other” to be tormented, to all eternity. How much better, therefore, is poverty, with the friendship of God, than riches, with all that the world can bestow! And how foolish to seek our chief pleasures only in this life!" Whitney Houston has already received her reward, and it was not lasting. It is gone, just like her life. Others will still feed off her 'fame' and many will desire to be like her, considering her life a success based on her achievements, awards, and talent. Even her family may be guilty of covering up and living off her fame. It seems when Whitney first got started, her mother had serious concerns about this very thing when she told this to People magazine, " Even now, Cissy frets about the psychic G forces exerted by sudden fame: "There's so much mess out there—drugs and all that kind of business," she says. "But Whitney is very levelheaded, and I hope and pray...." {People magazine May 19, 1986 edition, vol. 25, no. 20}

Few will actually consider her self-destruction and the reason for it; as in her eulogy, her sins will not be addressed, nor will the end result of the desires for fame and fortune be considered. How many more have to die before the entertainment industry 'gets it'? Sadly, they do not care because of their dead-in-sin state; they will find the next great talent and feed off that talent until it self-destructs...and the pattern goes on and on and on. Whitney's image on stage was a figment of Clive Davis' imagination, he made her into something that wasn't really real when she was on stage and contributed to her destruction by exposing her to the demands of the entertainment industry. He made tons of money off this woman and will continue to 'feed off' those who have a God-given talent to sing. This does not mean he forced Whitney to do drugs, her inability to cope with the demands and pressures of living in the limelight and having her every move exposed to all the world were too much for her to handle.


Such a beautiful voice thrown away for the fleeting pleasures of this life; how she could have brought God glory if only she'd used her voice to sing praises to Him and Him alone instead of desiring to be a diva in the world of pop culture entertainment. Whitney Houston loved the world; the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, the pride of life, and the world chewed her up and spit her out. Now the world will latch on to a new 'idol', 'diva', 'icon'; she will be replaced and forgotten just as quickly as she rose to stardom- here is a prime example - . Her voice is now forever silenced, her time is through and her fate is sealed. My hope is that God did save her in those final moments.

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I feel the need to add this to my post ---

There are reports that a tabloid mag has published photos of Whitney in her casket, which is the lowest of lows. Some of the comments concerning this are just as disturbing, comments like 'she looks so peaceful', she looks as beautiful in death as in life' etc.

Even in death, we deny the ugliness and finality of it. When my own mother died, she looked wonderful the day of her viewing. BUT, the night she died was a different story. I know this is a touchy subject and I mean no disrespect to my own mom, whom I love dearly and miss more than words can say.

When the soul leaves the body, the body becomes this hard mass of clay-like substance, cold to the touch. Funeral directors work wonders when they work on the deceased, maybe they do too good a job.

The body starts to decompose almost immediately, what takes place on that cold slab in the mortuary to get the deceased to look good is really hard to stomach, I will not go there.
What people need to understand is that the body is now lifeless, the person is not at rest just because they look good in a coffin; for those who are in Hades, it is quite the opposite picture. They are terrified, so much so that it would make the hair on the back of our necks stand on end if we could get a glimpse of the horrors they face...hardly resting in peace. There is no peace for the wicked, neither in this life nor in death. We need not glamorize death or gloss over its ugliness; let us speak of its horrors and warn others ' lest they also come into this place of torment' - Luke 16:28

28 comments:

Jehovah Mekoddishkem said...

Very good post and one that is very sensitive. But the truth must be told. I had tears fill my eyes when I first read she had died.
Like you stated we don't know her heart-God does, but we do know the fruit she bore and sadly with a very heavy heart was not lookin like good fruit

thanks lyn

Love you in the Lord Jesus Christ all for His matchless glory and honor

lyn said...

I know what you mean Linda; when I heard her sing 'I will always love you' I could not believe the voice God gifted her with. I also wonder why her family would encourage her to pursue fame and fortune, considering the claim to be Christian. This is such a tragedy, a life cut short by deadly sinful behavior {if in fact they find the combination of drugs and alcohol to be the reason behind her death}. She spiraled out of control...where was her 'church', where was the Pastor? Why did he not rebuke her? The answer lies in a problem that is huge...most churches in America are apostate and do not adhere to sola scriptura.

A beautiful voice forever silenced and her sins covered over in her eulogy. Truth must be told, no matter how painful; perhaps someone will be spared the fate of Whitney Houston by hearing truth. That is my prayer.

ChurchSalt said...

Great post. Let us not forget to examine our own lives as well to be sure that we are indeed found in the faith.

lyn said...

I could not agree more Churchsalt...I pray for God to get glory and for the true Gospel to be proclaimed at my own funeral. All my earthly accomplishments mean nothing if they were not for the sake of the kingdom and for His glory.

Anonymous said...

Lyn, thank you for posting your blog site on defcon. I have read comments from you before and have enjoyed reading your wonderful remarks that glorify our Lord. I hardly ever leave comments on any sites I visit, but wanted to say how much I will enjoy perusing yours. In Christ, Nikki

lyn said...

Nikki,
I appreciate your kindness, and must give all glory to the only One who is worthy - the great, mighty, powerful, merciful, gracious, holy, righteous 'I AM'.

In Christ
Lyn

Jon Gleason said...

Well stated. If you are interested, I made some similar points, but had a very different emphasis. I didn't much want to talk about Whitney Houston's eternal destiny, because we can't really know.

I focused more on the mess that is the entertainment industry, and how Christians should respond. I believe this is probably a bigger problem for more Christians today.
http://mindrenewers.com/2012/02/13/weeping-for-whitney/

lyn said...

Thanks Jon, I will indeed check it out. After watching a bit of her funeral, and the repeated statements by some that she was in heaven, I was prompted to post this. You are correct, we cannot know, as I stated in this post. However, if they reveal she died as a result of drugs and/or alcohol, I believe we can be more certain she died as she lived...without Jesus Christ

Jon Gleason said...

I agree, Lyn, although true believers can get themselves into such a mess sometimes. It's not so much what she did in the last hours before she died but the consistent pattern....

It's indicative of what a mess so-called Christianity has become that we even have to talk about that. People just talk as if everyone gets into Heaven, rather than the truth that it is the few who are saved.

lyn said...

Yes Jon, true believers do indeed fall into sin, however, Ms. Houston's adult life was patterned by habitual and willful sin. God will not let His chosen ones stay in sin for decades, as she did. 1 John teaches us those who sin prove they are of the devil, those who practice righteousness prove they are of God; that is how we can tell sheep from goats.
It breaks my heart to know Whitney Houston is more than likely in outer darkness, awaiting her final judgment. I can only ask why didn't someone from her church, namely her pastor, go to her and rebuke her?
A life patterned by habitual sin proves one is still in bondage. If your life goes, as hers did, for years in sinful behavior, what does that say about God's saving power? He was not able to free Whitney of her bondage, nor did He even bother to chastise her? How I wish she were in heaven, but I have to weigh her life in light of God's word, for His word is truth.

lyn said...

We have got to speak out on sin, we have got to call addiction what it is, sin. Addiction is not a disease, it is a choice. Same with homosexuality, adultery, greed, lying, cheating, etc. These are all choices we make, and they are all sin. Where is the man of God who will speak out against sin, then present the glorious Gospel of Jesus Christ? There is no doubt in my mind had Whitney Houston chose to stay in the church choir rather than fame and fortune, she would still be here. The tragedy is the loss of any soul, whether famous or not: as hell fills daily where are those who know truth and why aren't we shouting it from the rooftops? The Gospel of grace is not good news if we do not know how utterly vile and wicked we are and if we do not hear we have no hope after this life without believing on the Lord Jesus. Where is the discipleship? So much is wrong with America, there is such a famine of truth. We need to cry out to God for His grace, mercy and power for sinners in this, and every nation. I pray for heaven to increase in number and hell to decrease.

Marie said...

Well-said, Lyn. I thought about this too....what bothered me as much as the "addiction" (aka life-dominating sin) was the coverage of a cult she seemed to get involved with towards the end of her life, in Israel (some sort of Hebraic African sect that believes the Messiah is among them).

My friend Dr. Mark Shaw ("The Heart of Addiction") posted the following entry yesterday - "Whitney Houston: A Biblical View on Addiction". He makes many of the same points you did: http://www.histruthinlove.com/?p=4591

lyn said...

I am vaguely familiar with this cult, but I didn't know she was involved. I heard her interview with Oprah and some things she said there were very strange; for example, she and Oprah 'connected spiritually'. Oprah is very new age in her beliefs. It seemed Whitney relied on her own strength to overcome her 'demons', she even sang a song entitled 'didn't know my own strength' during this interview. Her 'god' was herself, which is why she failed so tragically.

Thanks for the link, I am going there now.

Marie said...

Yes, there was quite a bit of footage during the news last week. I don't remember names - I barely paid attention but the news was on while we ate - and the gist of it was, she traveled to the "Holy Land" to hook up with this group to help her fight her "demons" (addiction). Then, she was baptized by them - in the Jordan River; cellphone in hand to call her mom - but because of the voice-over I couldn't hear whose name she was baptized into. My husband and I were saying, she'd have done better to have just returned to her Baptist church in New Jersey!!

lyn said...

Wow, thanks for sharing that Marie. I agree, she would have been better off returning to her Baptist church...I think.

I wonder, where was her Pastor and her church while she struggled years with her bondage to sin? Why didn't her pastor or a church member rebuke her? I have heard her mother intervened a couple of times and made her go to rehab, sadly, that did more harm than good. Her mom claims to be a Christian and yet, she was unaware that Whitney's alcohol and drug abuse was not simply an addiction, it was a choice she made which catapulted her into the bondage that ultimately killed her.

I am convinced Whitney ran from God and sought other ways to battle her bondage, ways like you have spoken of. There is this deeply embedded idea if we 'do something', such as be baptized, we will be made right with God. Then, we can go on with life as usual. I listened to a bit of her funeral, it was an entertainment circus. People applauding each other and patting themselves on the back, Whitney's life exalted like she was a 'goddess', her sin was never addressed...and we all go to heaven in a little row boat right?

America is in the midst of a famine of biblical truth, pulpits across the land refuse to preach the whole counsel, as a result, we see a nation in decay and crumbling to the ground. Sin is re-labeled so as to not offend anyone, repentance is not addressed, striving for holiness, denying yourself and seeking to honor God and bring Him glory are topics you will not hear in the majority of churches in this nation. This is why I read the writings of men from the past, like Spurgeon, Ryle, Watson, etc. We are in very dark days sister...may God be merciful.

donna said...

Hi Lyn, your article is about the only bibically based one re the death of Ms. Houston. Sadly when Whitney Houston was a young teen like 15 or so she was already singing in the nightclubs with her mother Cissy as well as doing background vocals for artists ie Chaka Khan, etc. When she got older her mom allowed her to solo in those nightclub performances--yet at the same time she was singing in the youth choir at her Baptist church. I wonder if that contradiction is what made Whitney think she could sing for the world and yet think she was ok?

lyn said...

Hi Donna,

You could be on to something there. I watched interviews of Whitney with Diane Sawyer and Oprah Winfrey. The Diane Sawyer one was interesting, when asked about her drug of choice, Ms. Houston said she made too much money for crack. She seemed almost insulted that someone would assume she was on crack.
Whitney also told Oprah she would lace her pot with cocaine. How deadly is this, she did claim alcohol was not an issue with her. Those who are in bondage to sin, the sin of drugs and alcohol, will never admit truth. It is a miserable life filled with deception, lies, and misery.

Still, this is so very tragic. Why would her mother want her daughter to pursue fame and fortune? I would never allow my daughter to pursue such a godless lifestyle. It could very well be as you say, she assumed it was okay to sing in clubs as long as she sang in the choir as well.
This is the sad state of the churches in this country; if you watched any of Ms. Houston's funeral, you'd know what a horrendous circus it was. There was no mention of her sins, no Gospel presentation, not even from the 'pastor' of this church. It was all about what a wonderful talent she was, what she gave the world; as if her voice was something she could take credit for.

I am led to believe that even as a young child Whitney probably never heard much about repentance, sin, depravity, God's holiness, righteousness, wrath, and so on. We live in a time when you can live like the devil and still claim Jesus loves you, and as long as you convince yourself of this, it's okay to keep on sinning. This is the sad truth, we all are in bondage to sin and love it, none of us would part with our sins apart from God's grace, His regenerating work...the new birth.
Even in Whitney's case, so many are afraid to speak the truth, more than likely, she is not in heaven. She was in bondage to her sins and she loved it, so much so that it cost her dearly. She loved people idolizing her, which is a sin in itself. All glory is due to God and God alone. The ignorance of God's word and His attributes is shameful, our culture has this view of God as allowing all to enter into His kingdom, regardless of how you lived your life on earth. God forbid anybody speak otherwise; if we do not start speaking out, hell will continue to be heavily populated. It truly breaks my heart to know that Whitney, as well as all who die without Christ, are in torment and agony right now: but I know my God is just and judges rightly. God sends no one to hell, we send ourselves because of our love of sin. May our great and awesome God be merciful, may He pour out grace and truth throughout the world.


Thanks for the comment Donna

Jon Gleason said...

I'm afraid the nature of her funeral tells us all we need to know about her Baptist church.

lyn said...

Exactly Jon.
Marie mentioned this 'sect' Whitney had joined a few years back in her comment here, as she said it is 'some sort of Hebraic African sect that believes the Messiah is among them'. I did watch a video of Whitney being baptized, along with her husband, during this event. Whitney seemed to be searching for something to give her peace, all the while running from true Peace. Sadly, she never found it.

Anonymous said...

Good post from a Christian point of view.

Here's a question that some may ask. Was Whitney too far from being helped by God? Was she too far into alcohol and drug dependency that even God could not reach her?

I was just thinking about those that Christ went out of his way to find. I believe he did this to make a point. That even the demon possessed such as the Gadarene man who lived among the tombs, and the man by the pool of Siloam, as well as the man blind from birth...those out of touch with the mainstream, those who were not part of the crowd, the ten lepers, etc.; those with gigantic problems...needed only to hear the word and respond. And I believe Christ did that for an example to those who would live in the centuries to follow, who would hear of Christ's power available to all who would cry out to him or respond to his word in obedience. They could have faith that their own belief and repentance could produce the same results as it did for these fringe elements of society.

No Whitney was not too far away. She just never asked. She had money and self reliance. They failed her. Had she come to Christ, he would not have failed her.

Carolyn

lyn said...

Carolyn,

Well said. She did not desire to deny self and forsake all she had to follow Christ, she desired fame and fortune instead. She loved the limelight, even when the demands of being a diva became overwhelming, she still would not walk away. Instead, she coped with those demands through drugs and alcohol; that was her escape.

God could have saved her, but Whitney loved her sins more than the thought of repenting and forsaking them. She was not one of God's 'elect', for if she had been, she never would have stayed in bondage to her sins. The supernatural power of God would have regenerated her and she would have left the music world behind and followed Christ.

She got involved with a dangerous sect known as the Hebrew Africans, here is a link to her 'baptism' into this sect...http://www.metacafe.com/watch/331165/whitney_houston_the_hebrew_africans/

They believe they're black Hebrew Israelites from some lost tribe, there are different groups that have branched out of this sect, you can get a more in-depth understanding here - http://www.gotquestions.org/black-hebrews-israelites.html

Whitney was apparently seeking some sort of spiritual peace or connection with some sort of 'god', however, the bible is clear that no man seeks the God of the bible. No one can come to Christ unless the Father draws them {John 6:44}. Without God's grace, no one would be saved {Ephesians 2:8-9}. The danger of the 'free will' theology is a damnable heresy, no one chooses God unless He first regenerates them for all are dead in sin {Ephesians 2:1, 5}. This is why we have so many goats running around, claiming to be Christian, yet they live like devils. They are saved because they claim they made a decision, or invited Jesus into their hearts; this is not possible because of man's depraved state of mind. To take credit for any part of the salvation God gifts one with is to rob Him of glory, let us take heed not to rob the Almighty One of His due.

lyn said...

As for her drug and alcohol dependency, let's not confuse worldly terms with what the Bible calls sin. Whitney was in bondage to her sinful choices, drugs and alcohol. Christ himself taught all who sin are slaves to it - John 8:34.
If Christ frees you from sin and it's bondage, you are free indeed - John 8:36. This is how we tell the righteous from the wicked, those who continue in sin prove they are of the devil, those who practice righteousness prove they belong to Christ - see 1st John 3:1-10

The world labels drunkenness/drugs as a 'disease', or an addiction. Just like the world labels homosexuality as genetic and gay. This all lessens the severity of sin, and ultimately makes the sinner more at ease with his/her sinful practices. So they go on in their sins until death takes them down to the grave, and their souls end up in Hades. This is why truth must be spoken, and we must refrain from using the world's terminology when it comes to sin.

Whitney sang 'Jesus loves me', she sang gospel, she claimed to be a child of God; but in the end, it does not matter what we claim, the question is, did Christ know her? Did God regenerate her? Did she live solely for the glory of God, striving for holiness and Christ-likeness? The answers to all these questions are found in her bondage to sin, her fruit, the way she lived her life and who she lived for, herself...the answers to these questions is 'no'.

Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94LqwMM0zkg

Whitney Houston Receives Award of Merit - AMA 1994

There is not one shred of doubt this lady will be gracing all our presence in Heaven on that glorious day... there is not one shred of doubt... (forward to 2:00)"not alone"... she could not get there alone ......... "to GOD IS THE GLORY>>>> I sing cause he blesses me and BOBBIE..."

I don't mean to shout.
But aside from 1994 Grammy - this was her greatest professional industry moment, not comparable to many to this day... and she waited for the right moment to give it to God above. It was unscripted and unreal in beauty.

This woman was indescribably beautiful >knew it< and was still more humble than many/any you will find out there today.

This woman no matter how jaded and tired she became at the final few days knew she was to see the Lord, soon.

BTW I thought n o one is in Heaven yet, but all those who have passed away are in slumber and we will all be united in the sky on the day of Judgement? Am I wrong on that?

lyn said...

Anon,

So, you are basing her entrance into heaven on some temporal earthly accomplishment? Let me ask you this, how was God glorified in Whitney's 'accomplishments'? Some of the lyrics to her songs were suggestive and sensual in content, is that the mark of a true follower of Christ? It isn't if you adhere to the authority of God's word. Also, she provoked idolatry...of herself. Her fans 'adored' her, screamed for her, bought her albums, paid to see her perform, and what did she do with all that fame and fortune? SHE SPENT IT ON HERSELF.

Did you even read the article?


I have seen interviews of Whitney that reveal the true side of her, for instance, her interview with Diane Sawyer from 2002 and her confession that the biggest devil was her concerning her addiction. The fact that she was in bondage to drugs is proof she was not a child of God, for Christ Himself teaches in John 8:34 "Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin.
John 8:36 "So if the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed." Those God re-births are set free from their bondage to sin, they overcome, they do not deliberately sin {read 1 John chapter 3}.

Also, Whitney was sexually immoral with men, which is what her boyfriend stated in an article I'd read. It was also revealed in her autopsy report she'd had breast implants, why would a woman of God want to enhance their breasts? This would cause men to lust, which is sin. A true woman of God knows this and would never do such a thing. Vanity is another issue with Ms. Houston, she had 11 dental implants, her teeth were immaculate, her breasts were enhanced, she'd had a small scar on her lip from an incision, I'm guessing due to some sort of lip enhancing procedure. She pampered herself from head to toe and made sure her appearance was immaculate. There is nothing wrong with wanting to look presentable, there is everything wrong when it becomes vanity.

Again, the Bible forbids the sexually immoral entrance into God's kingdom - see 1 Corinthians 6:9-10. Sounds to me like you have made an 'idol' out of a sinner; unfortunately, God's word does not lie. Ms. Houston was not a true follower of Christ, she merely gave lip service. As the Lord Himself says in Matthew 7:21 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." You see, it isn't verbal professions that make one a 'Christian', it's obeying God's word, fleeing sin, repenting and forsaking sin. Ms. Houston was a lover of the world and all it had to offer, wealth, material possessions, fame, notoriety, diva status: the exact opposite of what God calls us to - 1 John 2:15 'Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.'

As sad as it is, the truth must be told. Sinners who rebel against God and continue in sin willfully, day in and day out, prove they do not know the Christ of the Bible. Just because she gave God credit does not mean she is in heaven. I am sure it was her way of reassuring herself she was 'right' with God, she appeased herself with such things. However, examining her life and comparing it with Scripture will prove otherwise, which I have done. There was no evidence she was regenerated, she lived her life HER WAY, did what SHE wanted, and ultimately...it cost her dearly.

As for where true believers go when they die, the Apostle Paul answers this in Php. 1:23 'But I am hard-pressed from both directions, having the desire to depart and be with Christ.'

lyn said...

Anon,

You might want to read this article...http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/05/06/hed-stockpile-drugs-so-wouldnt-run-out-new-details-whitney-houstons-drug-habit/

It shows just how deep into the sinful bondage of drugs Ms. Houston was, it ruled her life, there was no room for Christ, denying self and fleeing sin. She couldn't overcome because she was not born again.

I do not mean to sound harsh or unloving, I do mean to present biblical truth. It seems America is under the impression you can live like the devil and STILL enter God's kingdom..the Bible teaches otherwise.

Anonymous said...

My take on Whitney is that she was a severely backslidden Christian. In her early life, she openly states she was saved.
OK, going back, we have a greedy, famous singer, her satanic 'cousin', who was once head of the Psychic Network for awhile, a wishy-washy 'Christian' mother who sings in bars and in church....and a young, vulnerable girl who is being guided by them into the biz.
Make no mistake, they pushed her into it, their little golden egg laying goose with the golden voice.
I believe in 'once saved always saved'. Whitney took off through huge promotions and was caught up, innocently at first.
Then of course, the drugs an the rest came in. She backslides; there is trememdous pressure on her as a commodity.
However, I believe she was under strong inner conviction all oalong. She always gave JESUS CHRIST the glory at her award ceremonies. She did not mumble the name of a nameless deity, but boldly called on The Name.

People, I was so backslidden for over a decade that it was ridiculous. Yet I still knew the Lord.
I submit to you that if I had been offered a singing contract back when I sang gospel, I'd have grabbed it, not realizing where it would lead.
Whitney was a kid, she had no idea where these so-called family people were pushing her. The Bible says our worst enemies are in our own families.
In Whitney's case, I believe this to be the ultimate truth.
Her mother was 'connected' to the WORLD, the BIZ, and still held up a form of godliness in the CHURCH.....huh?
Please don't limit the Lord. I believe He was dealing with Whitney. I don't believe she died of a cocaine overdose. I believe she was 'offed' for a number of reasons.
The Lord allowed this in order to take her out of this world, to a safe place. With Him. As for the Dimona episode, I don't see any signs that she worshipped that leader there. Peopell said she and Bobby were singing 'Glory to The Lamb' on that bus, so they knew Who the real Leader is.
She went to Dimona probably because of its re-hab style living regimen, to pick up some ideas on how to get really clean, and she wanted to see Israel.

lyn said...

What evidence did Whitney ever bear that she was saved, even as a child? Here lies the problem with American Christianity, so many are saved simply because they say they are. You claim she was 'backslidden'...for 30 years?!?!? She bore NO EVIDENCE that God had regenerated her, singing 'glory to the lamb' does NOT mean somebody is saved. She was in bondage to drugs, which the Bible forbids. Christ said if the Son sets you free you are free indeed; that means the bondage to sin, including addictions, is broken by the power of God when He regenerates a sinner.She also desired people to worship and idolize her, if not, why didn't she just walk away?


Do you understand the doctrine of regeneration and the doctrine of repentance? Do you understand the command to 'be holy, for I am holy' for without holiness NO ONE will see the Lord? Do you honestly think a true follower of Christ could live the life of fame, fortune, drug addiction, and sexual immorality and STILL enter God's kingdom?

Do you understand these commands from the Lord Jesus, "If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple. Whoever does not carry his own cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple. So then, none of you can be My disciple who does not give up all his own possessions." from Luke chapter 14

And what about this from 1 John 3, 'Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous;the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.' - and this command from 1 John 2:15 'Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.'

Whitney Houston was not backslidden, she willfully sinned repeatedly, habitually against a Holy God for DECADES, this is NOT the mark of a true, genuine believer. She also loved the world and all it had to offer; she once scolded Diane Sawyer in an interview and claimed she made too much money to smoke crack, 'crack is wack', as she said. She admitted the biggest devil was...herself, then she grinned an eerie grin after that confession.

to be contd...

lyn said...

Everything you say you base on your opinion, i.e., 'My take on Whitney' 'I believe she was under strong inner conviction all along. She always gave JESUS CHRIST the glory at her award ceremonies. She did not mumble the name of a nameless deity, but boldly called on The Name' {She actually brought shame and reproach upon His name with her sinful behavior, sending a message to people that you could live like a devil as long as you make a 'verbal profession" - have you ever read Isaiah 29:13 'And the Lord said: "Because this people draw near with their mouth and honor me with their lips, while their hearts are far from me" as well as Luke 6:46 "Why do you call Me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?" What does Jesus say to those, like Whitney, who live a life of rebellion? Matthew 7:23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'}


More opinions from you, 'In Whitney's case, I believe this to be the ultimate truth.' 'The Lord allowed this in order to take her out of this world, to a safe place'

I must ask you, are you the source of ultimate truth, or is God? What is your opinion worth?

This is why I examined her life and compared it to Scripture, that is the plumb line for truth and genuine Christianity. She bore no evidence that she was a born again believer, her lip service was to pacify herself and whoever else may be fooled by it. As the post stated, she bore no fruit of being regenerated by God, she is just like the parable the Lord spoke of in Luke 16 concerning the rich man and the poor beggar... 'Child, remember that during your life you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus bad things; but now he is being comforted here, and you are in agony.' She isn't in hell because she was rich, she is in hell because she lived her life the way she wanted to, as if God never gave her a law to obey. Flee sexual immorality, flee drugs and alcohol, flee idolatry, flee materialism...DENY SELF, pick up your cross and follow Him. To be a follower of Christ is to be His slave, to surrender completely to Him as authority over you. There is no evidence of any of this in Whitney's life, and in most other 'Christian's lives' in America.

Weak preaching and bible illiteracy is producing false converts, the accursed gospel of 'invite Jesus into your heart', or 'make your decision for him', 'repeat this prayer' , 'just confess Christ as your savior' are all not the true Gospel. The true Gospel calls sinners to repent, to leave their life of sin, to die to self, to be willing to die for Christ, to give up all they desire {that would mean a career}, to follow Christ wherever He may take them. There is no guarantee you will even have a place to lay your head.

If America does not dig into God's word and cry out for truth, this shallow form of Christianity which really is no form of Christianity will continue to populate hell; sinners thinking themselves saved based on 'something' they said or did. Salvation is based solely on God's grace, 'for by Grace are you saved, through faith, and that {both grace and faith, plus salvation} is NOT of yourselves, it is a gift of God, not of works, lest any man boast - Ephesians 2:8-9